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Father Loses Home and Business for Teaching His Children
to Work
Are they my children or my employees?
With nearly 20 years of marriage and 7 children,
our home is the center where faith, birth, education, hospitality, business,
work and worship all happen. Since 1992, I had been moving houses as a general
contractor, and as common for self-employed fathers, I found the opportunity
to take my boys, and thought nothing strange of it. I was involved in teaching
and mentoring our children, and they would accompany me occasionally, from the
time they were weaned. We believe children are a gift from the Lord to the parents,
and we, not the state, have the responsibility to train them. Yet L&I has
an agenda to usurp these rights as parents.
In this essay I will show how the Department
of Labor and Industrys agenda disregards (1) the law, (2) the traditional
family, (3) the safety of youth, (4) due process, and (5) the economy as they
deny youth the opportunity to work with their fathers, the rich heritage which
was our nations strength only one generation ago. Without a constructive
outlet for youthful energies, families are strained, and youth resort to less-than-constructive
outlets that are much more dangerous.
Historically, our State Law has
never considered a child working for their parent as employment,
but defended the parents right and duty to control their childs
industry. Thousands of children have worked in family businesses and parents
have even sued L&I, claiming their children were their employees and demanding
coverage for them. Yet L&I has successfully argued before the State Supreme
Court three times, that an employer/employee relationship between a parent and
child cannot exist unless all four of these conditions exist: 1. emancipation,
2. a written contract, 3. fixed compensation, and 4. freedom to spend the money
without parental control. The last time it was argued, the court affirmed, saying,
we now hold that the law of this
state is, that the relationship of employer and employee, between parent
and child, springs from contract, and that as between parent and child such
contract, in order to be valid, must provide that the child shall receive
for the labor performed by him a fixed compensation which he may use as he
sees fit, and that the proof of such contractual relationship must be clear
and convincing. If there be no emancipation of the child, there can be no
basis for a contractual relationship between the parent and child,
The court added The right, as well as the duty to exercise parental
control and to provide parental care and support is of such paramount importance
and necessity, and is so thoroughly recognized in law and by society in general,
that any divestiture of that right and that duty must be proved by evidence
that is clear, cogent, and convincing. American Products vs. L&I. Furthermore,
"in determining whether an employer-employee relationship exists, the
common law rules should be applied, except as modified by statute."
L&I new agenda!
Though neither the case law nor the statutory
laws in this case have been reversed, L&I now claims that the four conditions,
for which they repeatedly and successfully argued in the Courts, are of no
significance and not a determining factor for identifying
employment between a parent and child.
For 11 years I had been contracting as a house
mover, and throughout January 2003, I was watched almost full-time by L&I
inspectors. In February, I received fines of $34,000. for employing
two of my boys (then 11 and almost 14) and subjecting them to an unreasonable
risk, primarily working on my own property. They claimed that if I did
engage, suffer, or permit my children to do appreciable work
for myself, except for agricultural or domestic labor in and around my private
home, I had employed them, even if while training the child. Their
penalties are:
$1000/day for to work during school hours even though we home-school.
$1000/day to work without an order from a superior court judge.
$1000/day for them to work more than ten feet above the ground level.
$1000/day for them to work on a construction site (our private
property).
$1000/day for them to work in the proximity of [our] heavy equipment.
$1000/day for them to operate a [our] bulldozer and backhoe.
$1000/day for being a helper on a public roadway.
$1000/day for no valid Minor Work Permit
$1000/day for no Parent/School Authorization form signed.
CPS agents, working with L&I, then
tried to abduct my son, Zach, while he was with me in the L&I building.
Next, L&I got a Court Order to keep my children off all work sites, off
all equipment, and less than ten feet off the ground, and it directed
all persons in active concert
to remove my boys from any work
site or equipment! Remember, I owned the work site! Can you imagine that a neighbor
or police can now forcibly remove your child from your family business and private
property because they worked with their dad?
They found that I had exercised direction
and control over my boys, claiming, You were the individual directing
him to do the activities, which they say further determined an employment
relationship. Now, my boys wanted to work with me, which is quite normal; boys
without constructive work opportunities frequently end up in trouble. In fact,
every L&I worker we questioned said they had a job before age 12.
The Courts can give youth direction
and control on community service at age 10. They will operate
lawn mowers, hedge trimmers and razor-sharp sickles, but thats not considered
employment nor an unreasonable risk.
Farm children have many early opportunities
to work, including no minimum age to get a drivers license in Washington
for farm-related driving. They operate all sorts of heavy equipment with their
fathers direction and control, yet the state doesnt
consider it employment nor an unreasonable risk.
The public schools offer scores of different
work opportunities with direction and control, including building
houses and putting 9-year-olds to work flagging traffic at school crossings,
trying to protect children in the road without adult supervision, yet its not
considered employment nor an unreasonable risk by L&I.
Our state law requires homeschoolers to teach
occupational education, but if I have my son help as a spotter while
moving a house down the road at 5-mph, with police, overhead linemen, flaggers
and pilot cars diverting the traffic, and not in the presence of other children,
but with his father supervising, they call that employment and an unreasonable
risk; claiming homeschool vocational training is not bona fide.
Christine Gregoires Attorney General Office acknowledges that a parent
can train a child in work-place skills and experience like the schools,
but unlike the schools and other nonprofit agencies (such as Habitat for Humanities,)
they claim the parents cannot receive an appreciable benefit from the
students work, without it being employment. The AGs
office will prosecute the parents if the activities are more than just
a learning experience or a parent teaching skills to a child, but a situation
where the minor is contributing to the profit of the particular enterprise.
Their most quoted study titled Protecting Youth at Work, in 1989
by the US Dept of Labor, NIOSH, CDCP, EPA and DHHS stated that youth face
unique problems related to work, and then it names the one problem: Children
and adolescents who are poor, minority, or disabled are far less likely than
whites to be employed and, therefore, to reap the potential benefits of the
work experience. Not only does it recognize the benefits of
work, but the study affirms the parent/child exemption from present U.S. child
labor laws, stating that Children of any age may work in family-owned
businesses and on the family farms.
The traditional family is under attack.
I recently learned of another local family whose story parallels ours. Also
developers, they were audited and threatened by L&I not to allow their boys
to carry in a UPS parcel or run an errand. Without the
previous work opportunities with his parents, one of the boys started running
with the wrong crowd and lost his life playing Russian roulette. How tragic!
In the U.S. we lose a youth in non-work activities hourly, though this terrible
loss is seldom reported and never put into its true context. They have blatantly
lied to the public and our legislators about the risk to youth at work, like
claiming agricultural work poses great hazards to youth, while it
accounts for only one-sixth of 1% of youth fatalities. Yet the development of
skills and character in youth on the family farm is seldom surpassed! No, it
is not the farmer that is posing hazards to youth; the real hazard is in
driving a wedge between father and child by regulating their activities and
restricting them from each other for the bulk of the day, thereby making peer
activities predominant by default. This assault on fathers is greatly responsible
for the fact that there are more of our nations 13 to 17-year-olds killed
every 3 weeks than lives lost in one year of the Iraq war. Thats 15 times
the casualties of the Gulf war annually, with virtually no one reporting or
even recognizing the true enemy.
The ramifications from redefining to employ,
to include an appreciable benefit between a parent and their minor
child will be staggering on the family. L&I claims that if you allow
your child to carry in the mail, for a family enterprise then you
have employed them, requiring minimum wages. They will determine
employers [parents] who are eligible to employ [to receive an appreciable benefit
from] young people. Labor contracts and wage disputes, standardized drug
testing, privacy rights and myriads of employment laws and rights will all supercede
parental rights. Theyve entered a report into evidence with recommendations
stating that the current distinctions
in whether the minor is employed
by a stranger or by a parent
should be eliminated, and advocating
certain minimum employment standards to ensure the equal protection of
children including insurance and the same level of OSHA enforcement,
on family enterprises including subjecting small farms. They acknowledge
in this landmark case, as they call it, that family member
employment relationships
hasnt been challenged to this degree.
If they are successful, it will give them a precedent to look for appreciable
benefits between the owners of the 700,000 Washington businesses and their
children. Presently, 540,000 of the registered businesses are basically ma
and pa businesses without employees, in which L&I has no jurisdiction,
that is, unless they can redefine ones children as employees. It would
also open the door for virtually every youth to file a claim with L&I for
unpaid wages against their parents, completely redefining the traditional family.
Concerning Safety, the US DOL conclusively
shows pre 17 as the safest age in your life to work! The DOL records work fatalities
but not the hours worked under age 15. Their 2000 report claims 15, 16 and 17-year-olds
have only 80% of the corresponding risk of the older workers, yet
their data shows that working youth are much safer than that. They show age
15 at 39.2 million hrs. of work exposure per death, and 16 at 58.8 m.hrs. per
death, which includes homicide on the job, as compared to 40 m.hrs for adult
fatality. Excluding homicide on the job, its 74 m.hrs at age 16. This is even
more amazing when you realize that most 15-year-olds work on farms which have
a 4.6 times higher factor of 8.4 m.hrs per adult farm-worker fatality. Plus
their own studies claim that the hours worked by teens are usually reported
by their parents and are grossly underreported. The actual hours are more likely
twice those reported; putting 15-year-olds at 9 times safer than adult farmers
per hour, and 16-year-olds at 17 times safer or one fatality per 148 m.hrs.
But lets compare, using one fatality per 74 m.hrs of work, which they
acknowledge is over-kill. Do these officials transport their children in cars
and if so, is that an unreasonable risk? That risk is 34 times greater, or one
death for every 2.1 m.hrs of exposure and 200 times greater if their 16 year-old
is driving. The chance of a fatality per hour of exposure to motorcycling is
651 times more, swimming, 79 times, snowmobiling, 65 times and bicycling, 19
times greater than that of a 16-year-old working. Obviously, safety is not the
issue when L&I will not even identify at what level risk becomes unreasonable.
The US DOL shows an average of 35 accidental
work-place fatalities per year for 15, 16, and 17-year-olds combined, as compared
to 3500 non-work related accidental deaths, plus nearly 2000 deaths from suicide
and homicide for that same age group, per year. The US DOL claims that work
takes youth away from high risk activities such as sports, recreation, transportation,
crime, etc, yet state regulations are keeping youth from work. If the various
state bureaucrats would step out of the way, the hours worked by youth nationwide
would increase threefold, and if the removal of the regulations caused a 50%
rate increase in fatalities, that would still be only 170 accidental work-place
deaths per year for that age group. The extra 135 fatalities represent an additional
5.2 billion hours of work, or safe hours each year. That same time
spent at the average risk of biking and swimming would result in 3432 fatalities.
Driving youth from safe hours into high risk hours is wrong and
deadly! Their policies may cost society a 20-time increase in fatalities by
driving the youth into loitering, depression, obesity, poverty, gangs and other
high-risk exposures when they would often prefer to work, save, and learn responsibility.
Studies have recognized the rise in crime resulting from the combination of
youth being restricted from the labor market, while at the same time the media
has increased their perceived needs, and resulting in 500 to 10,000 times greater
risk factors. Consider the thousands of parents each year who lose a son or
daughter in a senseless accident or crime, and realize the terrible shame, remorse,
and sense of failure thats added to their loss, as contrasted with the
relatively few parents that lose their children in an honorable work setting.
Parents are completely ignorant of the increased risk to their children when
they are kept from work, but these labor officials arent. But worse yet,
these labor officials apparently like it, because it makes them look like theyre
saving lives at the work place. Theres not one study showing a negative
effect upon youth from working part time or from working with their fathers;
father involvement and work both, have an undisputable positive effect on youth
concerning grades, self-esteem, employability, responsibility, punctuality,
money management, crime reduction and safety.
As for due process, those who see the benefits
to youth avoid hiring them for fear of fines that can destroy them; taking 2
to 5 years in the administrative appeal process and $100,000. to get through
the maze and into the County Superior Court. In the past, I spent 4½
years and made it only half-way through the administrative process, when I missed
a deadline, which cost me the appeal. In that case, L&I had cited me for
not paying insurance premiums on three contractors, who, as sole proprietors
were exempt from mandatory coverage. The only question was as to whether they
were contractors. The AG objected to me entering into evidence the Depts
own printouts proving the contractors status, claiming lack of authenticity
and the hearing judge denied it into evidence on that basis; while they both
knew my boy had just ran over during the hearing and got the printouts from
L&I. What about the right to a speedy trial before a jury of your peers?
In this child labor case, the dispute
is simply over them redefining the term to employ, yet L&I has
successfully kept me out of Court for two years, arguing that I must first exhaust
all administrative remedy. Their attempt is to out-spend, out-last,
and financially destroy me in the meantime, claiming that they have no mandated
time-frame to respond.
While battling this child labor
issue and numerous other charges, L&I assessed me $107,000. on an audit,
though I had accurately reported and paid the premiums. They had earlier calculated
it at over 300K but after 4 months of wavering and fearing reprisal in the press,
they reduced it to 107K. A Dept report read, Why is the department pushing
this audit issue? By using his children instead of hiring more workers and by
not paying workers comp on his kids or on his other workers, [note, I
had paid $7,000. in premiums for that audit period, but had not paid on my boys,
since they were not employees.] by cutting these and other corners, Mr. Doty
has been able to bid so low on jobs that other businesses couldnt compete.
Its part of L&Is effort to level the playing field,
which helps keeps rates down. Ive made many requests for public
disclosure, but 16 months later, they still deny me the requested files, though
law requires the disclosure.
We had just moved and set-up13 homes on our
19-lot development and had sales pending on 12, but when I filed the Request
for Reconsideration, they placed the case in Abeyance and
liened my properties. With no hearings, they seized $130,000. in cash bonds,
my bank account, the properties, a contract, and equipment. My six-plex and
two houses (our home and a spec-house) had been mortgaged to finance
the development. So when L&I refused to release a single property for me
to sale, the project was financially shipwrecked, and within a year I have lost
not only the development, but the 2 homes and six-plex as well. My losses due
to the liens exceed a million dollars, not to mention lost employment for the
two years Ive been to battle. We lost our track-hoe, back-hoe,
service truck and dump trucks. L&I even took title to our family van. With
the liens, Im not bondable, which completely put me out of business! Documents
show that they have referred to me as a Satanist, the antichrist,
guilty of felony fraud, and for 16 months they have identified me
as a repeat offender on their website. With no hearing, they upheld
the 107K audit in the reconsideration, claiming a formal hearing
was not required. With the daily pressure of 8 active court cases, losing equipment
and properties, utility shut-offs, and especially with the fact that they would
not release the audit information on which I was to base an appeal, I filed
the appeal late. Yet 9 months after filing the appeal, theyve not even
decided whether or not they will consider the appeal! I did get my hands on
a few Dept. e-mails like we will not release anything
Pls destroy
this E-mail after reading or Apparently Mr. Doty wanted to obtain
records
I really do not want any staff releasing documents, or I
did not comply with the request, etc. With these mafia-type tactics, only
17 out of 10,000 cases will ever make it through that web to the Court, the
other 99.83% will cave-in and pay.
Concerning the economy, my last year
of business I paid out 150K developing infrastructure on property I freely deeded
to the city, to subdivide my property. I redeemed two million dollars worth
of homes that were destined for the landfill to make room for new development;
keeping them on the tax roles and helping many low income families obtain inexpensive
housing. I generated a million dollars of revenue into this economy and I cant
even get these public servants to return an e-mail concerning this report, nor
identify an unreasonable risk. I was told by an L&I employee that they would
review the statistics in this report for errors and respond to my claims, but
after three months and several requests, they are still avoiding me. They apparently
feel little accountability to the public, forgetting that its private industry
that builds the economy, and ultimately funds their salaries.
Weve lost our home and business. But when
it comes down to losing the opportunity to work with our youth, we must stand.
If we do nothing, we will surrender our Constitutional God-given right to apprentice
our youth, and our childrens rightful inheritance of being with their
fathers. There is an agenda to rob children of their fathers influence,
but scripture encourages: he shall turn the heart of the fathers to their
children, and the heart of the children to their fathers. (Malachi 4:6)
Theyre not my employees, they are my children.
This article is the personal experience and inquiry of Jude Doty, who may
be reached at judedoty@yahoo.com or 509-972-8777.
http://www.familiesthatwork.org/our_story.html
Working together! - - How to Help - - Working together!
We are thankful for each of you who would join our ranks in defending parents
rights to work with their own children. You have asked for addresses and for
a way to contribute the much needed finances to continue this battle, so heres
your chance to be a part!
Contact us with your encouragement and support!
Letters of support and donations may be made to:
Jude Doty
1011 Prospect Way
Yakima, WA. 98908
(509) 972-8777
Write letters and emails! Make phone calls!
Dept. of L&I, Attn: Director Paul Trause
7273 Linderson Way, S.W., Mailstop 4001
Tumwater, Washington 98501
Senator Alex Deccio, Republican
414 Legislative Building
PO Box 40414
Olympia, WA 98504-0414
Telephone: (360) 786-7626
Fax: (360) 786-1999
http://www1.leg.wa.gov/senate/deccio
Representative Mary Skinner, Position 1, Republican
434 John L. O'Brien Building
PO Box 40600
Olympia, WA 98504-0600
(360) 786-7810
http://www1.leg.wa.gov/house/skinner
Representative Jim Clements, Position 2, Republican
410 John L. O'Brien Building
PO Box 40600
Olympia, WA 98504-0600
(360) 786-7856
If you live in the Washington state, you may send a brief message to your district
legislators through the in-state toll-free Hotline number: 800.562.6000.
Washington 4th District Congressman Doc Hastings:
Washington, D.C. Office
1323 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515-4704
(202) 225-5816
Fax: (202) 225-3251
http://www.house.gov/hastings/
United States Senator Maria Cantwell:
The Honorable Maria Cantwell
United States Senate
717 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510-4704
Phone 202-224-3441
Fax 202-228-0514
webmail@cantwell-iq.senate.gov
http://cantwell.senate.gov
United States Senator Patty Murray:
Washington, D.C. Office
173 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
Phone: (202) 224-2621
Fax: (202) 224-0238
http://murray.senate.gov
senator_murray@murray.senate.gov
We greatly appreciate your continued prayer support!
- - Thank you & God bless you! - -
We appreciate each and every letter of encouragement and support.
Thank you for your comments!
You may contact us via email at judedoty@yahoo.com
or by mail at:
This page addresses updates, for those of you who have read Our Story
and want to know what has happened more recently.
February 16th Update: Please note that tonight at 9:pm Pacific Time Jude will
be on a talk show with Michael Shaw of Freedom 21 Santa Cruz. This shall be
archived for those of you who miss the show.
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On Thursday, Feb. 3rd, WorldNet Daily published a story about our situation,
which was picked up by several internet and radio talk shows.
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On Friday, Feb. 4th, our home went up for foreclosure sale, and KAPP tv channel
35 carried the story. Jude spoke live on the Brian Sussman radio talk show on
560 am out of San Francisco.
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The positive response to our website has been encouraging. Many have requested
that we publish addresses of legislators and L&I officials for protest letters,
that we establish a donation fund, and that we offer an online petition. We
are presently looking into these options. We are also looking into opening a
trust account.
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At the forclosure sale on Friday, an unusual thing happened. The sale was scheduled
for 10:00 am, and there were around ten buyers present. For some
reason, they said there was a computer problem, and they were trying to fix
it. By 11:00 am they were ready to begin the sale, but at the last minute, the
minimum bid was lowered from $260,000. to $177,000. By this time, however, there
were no bidders present, and so the mortgage company purchased it back. This
cleared the title of all L&I liens; now the mortgage company owns it free
and clear. They may ask us to move upon a 30 day notice. We were told that usually
the mortgage company will lower the price to approximately 80% of the minimum
bid when homes do not sell. Someone suggested it may be purchased back in a
trust for us, and held for us until this case is over, so that L&I could
not seize it again. Jude spoke to the mortgage company and they will be getting
back with us with more information.
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