FBI asks US Congress for power to seize documents
[ATG: What did we tell you earlier?]
washingtonpost.com
By Alan Elsner
Reuters
Tuesday, May 24, 2005; 1:06 PM
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The FBI on Tuesday asked the U.S. Congress for sweeping
new powers to seize business or private records, ranging from medical information
to book purchases, to investigate terrorism without first securing approval
from a judge.
Valerie Caproni, FBI general counsel, told the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee
her agency needed the power to issue what are known as administrative subpoenas
to get information quickly about terrorist plots and the activities of foreign
agents.(The problem here is that it has nothing to do
with "terrorists plots" which now cover any criticism of government,
rogue agencies of the government, complaints of judicial corruption, government
definitions of "anti- anything" to do with government, which is now
acting like the Gestapo in ever facet of American life.Congressman Ron Paul
has spoken of this often.....but to no avail in Congress. Does this tell you
anything about your 'elected officials'?)
Civil liberties groups have complained the subpoenas, which would cover medical,
tax, gun-purchase, book purchase, travel and other records and could be kept
secret, would give the FBI too much power and could infringe on privacy and
free speech.
"This type of subpoena authority would allow investigators to obtain relevant
information quickly in terrorism investigations, where time is often of the
essence," Caproni testified. (B-S --this
is aimed at Total Control of the public.)
The issue of administrative subpoenas dominated the hearing, which was called
to discuss reauthorization of clauses of the USA Patriot Act due to expire at
the end of this year.
The act was passed shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. However administrative
subpoena power was not in the original law. The proposed new powers, long sought
by the FBI, have been added by Republican lawmakers, acting on the wishes
of the Bush administration, to the new draft of the USA Patriot Act.
(Time to let the government know we do not and will not
agree to this invasion of privacy.....in the name of "protection".
They have removed ALL protection by putting
our private information out where hackers can easily access it. Well over a
Million people have had their ID stolen. The government cannot prevent this,
nor do they care.)
Committee chairman, Kansas Sen. Pat Roberts, noted that other government agencies
already had subpoena power to investigate matters such as child pornography,
drug investigations and medical malpractice. He said it made little sense to
deny those same powers to the FBI to investigate terrorism or keep track of
foreign intelligence agents.
But opponents said other investigations usually culminated in a public trial,
whereas terrorism probes would likely remain secret and suspects could be arrested
or deported or handed over to other countries without any public action.
CLOSED HEARING
Roberts intends to hold a closed meeting on Thursday, above the objections
of some Democrats, to move the legislation forward out of his committee. But
the provision still faces a long road before it becomes law, since the Senate
Judiciary Committee also has jurisdiction over the bill, while the House of
Representatives is drawing up its own legislation.
Democrats on the committee expressed concerns and pressed Caproni to give examples
of cases where the lack of such powers had hampered an investigation.
(This writer never thought it would side with Democrats, but.....)
"I am not aware of any time in which Congress has given directly to the
FBI subpoena authority. That doesn't make it right or wrong. It just needs to
be thought about," said West Virginia Democrat Jay Rockefeller.
Caproni said she could not cite a case where a bomb had exploded because the
FBI lacked this power, but that did not mean one could not explode tomorrow.(More
B.S- the usual scare tactics in order to make legal what they have been doing
illegally for a long time. )
She gave a theoretical example of a case where the FBI suspected that a terrorist
was about to do something but did not exactly where he was. In such a case,
it might subpoena hotel or EZ-pass records, which would show where and when
he had driven through toll booths in the eastern United States. (And
what about those illegal entrants into the US---about which they are doing nothing.)
Under the proposed legislation, those served with subpoenas would have the
right to challenge them in court. (Anyone who has
tried this recently has discovered the corruption rampant in the courts in America.....nor
do many have the funds to do so...having been taxed out of existence.) But
civil liberties groups said few were likely to do so, and the person being investigated
would be unlikely even to know that the FBI was seeking his personal records.
For example, if the FBI demanded a person's medical records from his doctor,
the doctor could challenge the order if he wished, but the individual
could not. (Anyone not bowing to the demands
of the government agencies is immediately hauled into court or audited by the
IRS, etc. and there are few who would be willing to challenge the orders.)
"Ordinary citizens are storing information not in their homes or even
on portable devices but on networks, under the control of service providers
who can be served with compulsory process and never have to tell the subscribers
that their privacy has been invaded," said James Dempsey of the Center
for Democracy, one of several groups opposing the provision.
© 2005 Reuters
[ATG: Emphasis added.]
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